Curse

Kakumei · Feb 05, 2006, 01:11 PM // 13:11

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Originally Posted by Deathqueen

What's it to yah?

Annoyance.

Deathqueen · Feb 05, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

"GOOD" (smile) (smile) (SMILE)

Pandora's box · Feb 05, 2006, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Its not important how they call it. When I play GW I notice its no MMORPG. That's the only thing that counts for me. My own experiences. And that's why I still post: Hoping they will change in into a real MMORPG one day

Deathqueen · Feb 05, 2006, 02:02 PM // 14:02

I bet if you took a poll the mmorpgs would win it.

This is like the debate over whether Diablo 2 is an rpg. The ole pnp tabletop gamers swear that it is not. But, 2 million other people+ say it is.

Kakumei · Feb 05, 2006, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Deathqueen

I bet if you took a poll the mmorpgs would win it.

This is like the debate over whether Diablo 2 is an rpg. The ole pnp tabletop gamers swear that it is not. But, 2 million other people+ say it is.

Majority does not equal correctness. To use a classic example, everyone thought the world was flat. Is it? Of course not. The idea itself is laughable to us, now.

GW exhibits few, if any, characteristics of a typical MMO. This is because it isn't one. Let it go.

Murder In China · Feb 05, 2006, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Guild Wars is more like Diablo 2.

Dyeane · Feb 05, 2006, 04:29 PM // 16:29

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Originally Posted by Kakumei

To use a classic example, everyone thought the world was flat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth

Loviatar · Feb 05, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

[QUOTE=Deathqueen]INTERVIEW: GUILD WARS: FACTIONS

ArenaNet co-founder Jeff Strain talks us through the next chapter in NCsoft's Guild Wars saga

3 Feb 06 "When we announced Guild Wars back in early 2003," explains ArenaNet co-founder Jeff Strain, "we made a promise to gamers that we were going to change the online RPG industry." It's a lofty claim, but the original Guild Wars' million-strong following clearly demonstrates that ArenaNet's dedication to content-driven, subscription fee-free MMORPGing has reaped rewards for the developer and publisher NCsoft.

Now I can rest my case for all those that keep claiming it's not a mmorpg. (smile)
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WRONG

the part you failed to bold (which i did) is his quote.

the part you bolded is the words of the interviewer who is unwilling to accept that something new has arrived or is simply putting it into a nitch his readers can grasp as a lable.

if you are going to try to make a point by quoting a person QUOTE THE PERSON AND DONT PUT ANOTHER PERSONS WORDS IN HIS MOUTH.

IT IS A CHEAT SHOT AND DISHONEST

Kakumei · Feb 05, 2006, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Dyeane

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_earth

Wikipedia is not the end-all, be-all of information.

Also, that was an EXAMPLE. Even if that particular fallacy wasn't as widespread as it's made out to be, there ARE such fallacies throughout history.

And it's moot anyway. I don't know anyone who would say that just because a lot of people believe something makes it true.

Rayea · Feb 05, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

rpg is realy subjective to the person...

some players dont see lots of bowing and words like 'Thee' and 'Forsooth' and say its not roleplaying....others see the fact that you level up, have a range of skills and fight against monsters and call it roleplay...

some PnP peeps miss the roleplay talk and thus, class it as a simple masivle multiplayer, others of us see the *potential* for roleplay and clas it as such

the masively multiplayer comes not fro the amount of individual players per area, but from the fact that so many players can be on at the same time..just in different districts, i mean, i can talk to anyone in any server, so long as i know there name, right....

it is true, however, that most players just talk normal and dont roleplay much, if at all, but that doesnt mean theres not the ability to roleplay...just depends on your definition....i used to see places where RP was designated as using *cough* and *thinks* a lot.....same can be done here lol

Eternal Equinox · Feb 05, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

This can be debated one hundred times over, Guild Wars isn't an MMO. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that. It's just about as linear as it gets, missions are in instances and there's your occasional sidequests. That's not MMO.

David Lionmaster · Feb 05, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

am i the only one here who doesnt care what type of game its called??? i mean, this is the stupidest argument ever, its a fun game and i have fun playing it. thats all that matters.

Eternal Equinox · Feb 05, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster

am i the only one here who doesnt care what type of game its called??? i mean, this is the stupidest argument ever, its a fun game and i have fun playing it. thats all that matters.

The point was that it's not an MMO, people fail to realize that and won't shut up about it, which is why this continues to be argued upon. There's no arguement in it though, it's fact.

Kakumei · Feb 05, 2006, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster

am i the only one here who doesnt care what type of game its called??? i mean, this is the stupidest argument ever, its a fun game and i have fun playing it. thats all that matters.

I would prefer not to have false information being spread around. Some people may refuse to play MMOs at all, but greatly enjoy GW, as they are indeed very different games. It would be best that people don't label it as such.

led-zep · Feb 05, 2006, 06:40 PM // 18:40

elitism or snobbery? let people call it what they like, its only a game

Harmony · Feb 05, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51

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Originally Posted by David Lionmaster

am i the only one here who doesnt care what type of game its called??? i mean, this is the stupidest argument ever, its a fun game and i have fun playing it. thats all that matters.

Hear hear!! Well said, and I couldn't agree more. Who CARES what it's classified as; it's a fun game..play, enjoy, and quit sweating the semantics people.

Legendary Battousai · Feb 05, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

13 year olds like to practice their argumentative skills

calamitykell · Feb 05, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Deathqueen

If I always play solo how is it a "cooperative" game? And if you say it was "designed" to be cooperative then how come they allow solo ability??

If you play solo, how the hell is it Massively Multiplayer?! Moron.

Mandy Memory · Feb 05, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

It doesnt matter, most people are going to call this an MMO no matter what. It clearly isnt, but if they always call it a CORPG they are going to lose some possible players.

Eternal Equinox · Feb 05, 2006, 07:30 PM // 19:30

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Originally Posted by Legendary Battousai

13 year olds like to practice their argumentative skills

Ten year olds state the obvious.